Elder Mark Green


From  August-September 2020  The Primitive Baptist   


“Where did he find out that everyone God draws comes? He agrees, however, that God does the drawing and the Sinner does the coming! The issue, then, would be whether everyone that God draws comes or not, and as that is not the question before us, I will not discuss it further now.”

(W.P. Throgmorton from His debate with Elder John R. Daily in 1912)

This is an old argument for Primitive Baptist. We are accustomed to hearing it and dealing with it. The place where Elder Daily found out that everyone that God draws comes, to Him? Comes to Him. This is so, and is in the Bible. “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me.” He was lifted up when he was crucified, So we may safely conclude that the second part of his statement is just as true.

Notice, However, what the Lord did not say: “I will tug at all of mankind.” Those whom the Father draws come to him. If Christ was crucified, then “all men” will be drawn unto him. If all mankind are not, at some point in their lives, drawn unto Christ, then the expression “all men” does not indicate all of mankind, because all whom he draws will come to him.


“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me.” That is a positive statement of fact. “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me Draw him.” If no man can come, but all that the Father gave to Christ, do come, and the reason they come is specifically stated to be the drawing of God, then we may conclude that everyone God draws comes. That is not a difficult logical conclusion. Jesus did not say. “All that the Father giveth me shall come toward me,” but “To me.” They come to him because they are translated, as the apostle Paul tells us. A translation is a moving from one place to another, just as Enoch was translated by God to heaven. His movement was not by his own power or instigation, and his journey was not in that general direction, neither was it part of the way, because God picked up Enoch, and physically brought him to God in heaven, because God, (And only) of His drawing power, was Enoch taken up to heaven!

Yes, it is the sinner who does the coming, as Mr. Throgmorton says. However, there is such a thing as an involuntary coming. When I was a child, my father often took me, by the scruff of my neck and compelled me to go where he had told me to go. I went, but it was not a matter of my will. Dead sinners are alienated from God; They hate God, and all things godly. Therefore they are not voluntarily going to a destination that they hate. If they are drawn to God, it must of necessity be an involuntary drawing. God changes their hearts, but not because they choose that situation or desire it. Those who are dead in sins love, sin; they have no desire to be located in any other situation. Therefore, if they are drawn to God, it must be the Lord's doing, and not their own.